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Thursday, June 05, 2008
Posted by: Tom DeLay at 6:11 PM

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dawndawn writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 6:34 PM
Not a Marxist!
Can`t say that! -- "Taking it to the Streets!" -- Congressman DeLay is not one to roll over for nObama or anyone else!! -- For all the controversy and animosity he was confronted with in the House and still faces, Tom DeLay has no fear and can call a spade a spade -- ooops, can't use that metaphor -- Just say, he continues to speak the truth to those who want to hear it --
Pasadena Phil writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 6:39 PM
Cap and Trade Bill
Big centralized government program backed by BOTH candidates. I would say that the United Establishment Party is presenting TWO Marxists to select from...that is... if you believe that you are metaphysically incapable of voting for someone else. That's one of the give aways that you are part of a Marxist system, you can either vote for a communist or a communist. We have refined that system to offer TWO candidates for the only party instead of one.
Dread writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 6:59 PM
Rich
No offense, but that's really rich coming from any politician who sat on the Hill letting the government, the budget, and the deficit grow without any abatement.

Pot meet kettle.
Pasadena Phil writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 7:07 PM
meg
And that much anticipated mug shot was a classic example of turning lemons into lemonade. Our license photos should look that good.
Tazzmax writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 7:09 PM
Tom Delay
is right,....Oblamamessiah IS a Marxist!

McScamnesty is "morphing" into one too.

Vote 3rd party or "write in".
maggie  writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 7:35 PM
Amen
If the shoe fits........
ScarletPimpernel writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 7:35 PM
McCain is a liberal
and Obama is a Marxist.
Pasadena Phil writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 7:46 PM
Scarlet
McCain is four-square behind the Cap and Trade Bill. If that isn't a Marxist scheme for redistributing income, I don't know what is. If Obama is a Marxist, so is McCain. I think calling either one a Marxist is over the top. They are both just American-style big government socialists. That is enough for me to not vote for either one.
ScarletPimpernel writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 8:01 PM
Well, PPhil
I don't think McCain wants Govt to actually take OVER businesses whereas I'm sure Obama does. The Great Exasperator just wants to tax the shiite out of us while expecting that we go about our business as usual.

We quibble:)
muirgeo writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 8:01 PM
Wow!
http://www.pigbird.com/bush/images/tom_delay_mugshot.jpg

According to ABC's 20/20 television program, Abramoff lobbied DeLay to stop legislation banning sex shops and sweatshops that forced employees to have abortions in the Northern Mariana Islands when Abramoff accompanied DeLay on a 1997 trip to the U.S. commonwealth. While on the trip, DeLay promised not to put the bill on the legislative calendar.

What a guy!!

And speaking of marxist here is what happened to government spending under Delay.

http://home.comcast.net/~markthoma/Graphics/federal-debt-GD P.jpg


Republicans spend way more then democratic politicians. But the big difference is the republicans spend the money for their cronies while democrats build roads and schools and fund VA programs.

Mr Delay, Barak Obama walks a road too high for you to even see from way down their on the low raod you've taken.
Pasadena Phil writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 8:10 PM
Scarlet
We really don't know what Obama wants to do. But he has the endorsements of many ex-Fed officials including Paul Volcker and Alan Greenspan. He also is assembling a very good economic team that is much better than the inept Bush team. I listen to Bloomberg TV everyday, all day and it has become a daily staple to ask corporate leaders about the implications of Obama and McCain and Obama wins hands down. McCain is viewed as erratic and unpredictable. Obama is seen as someone who is trying to figure it out in the company of very reliable people. The problem is that we really don't have much else to consider with Obama but with McCain, he is known to be intellectually lazy and not seen as an expert on any subject. Apparently, the only person who trusts him is Juan Hernandez. McCain is nothing but blind ambition and not particularly pragmatic. He is kind of like Bush '41 without core principles. That Bush had principles but was willing to compromise them to win. McCain doesn't have that problem. I am more nervous about McCain than Obama. I don't find either credible on the GWOT either.
ScarletPimpernel writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 8:31 PM
Thanks PPhil
I learn more from you in one paragraph than a week's worth of cable news. I was basing my opinion on Obama sounding threatening towards business when he talks about how much profit they make. McCain just sounds embarassed about profit.

Not that I'm a fan of Greenspan but I'll give Obama credit if he's smart enough to know he doesn't know enough and assembles some smart guys around himself.

Sometimes I have the feeling that Obama is really not that idealogical but is just saying things to be President.
JimP writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 8:35 PM
WHERE'S KIMBERLY?
Hey, gang, where's Comrade Kimberly? She should be here denying that CheBama is a commie. Did her internship at the Soros funded computer boiler room end? Oh my! You don't suppose she was sent to the Gulag do you?
Pasadena Phil writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 8:50 PM
Scarlet
I agree. I blame Greenspan for much of the current credit problems and so far, Bernanke seems to have opened the flood gates of free money which is really disturbing but no one bears more blame than the GOP-led Congress of which McCain was such an ineffectual member for 25 years. It is discouraging that neither party can come up with better candidates but I always cut a non-pedigreed candidate like Obama slack. Starting from the bottom requires you to be exposed and involved with dirty local politics and when you find yourself rising to the elite echelons facing blue-bloods like Bush and McCain who had a free pass, it is too easy to drag them down. Truman was a great example and Clinton is quite a story too. Obama seems to be emulating Clinton's pragmatism and is signaling that he wants to be re-elected. Everyone remembers Carter and Clinton's first two years. It's only in 1994 that Greenspan sat Clinton down and explained to him what needed to be done. Clinton became a very, very good economic president. Obama is not stupid and doesn't seem to have the McCain's ego problem nor intellectual laziness. Doesn't matter. Neither will win a mandate and will be immediately faced with the worse economic conditions since the Great Depression. The real threat is the Global Warming nonsense.
Virginia Patriot writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 8:51 PM
A Marxist Or A Liberal?
Well, the guy whose campaign offices had Che pictures in them probably is a marxist. The guy who co-sponsored most of the left's biggest gains in the last few years probably is a liberal. Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin aren't, just sayin'.
arcman writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 8:53 PM
Where's Kimberly?
We have Muirgeo. Need I say more?
Pasadena Phil writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 9:06 PM
VPat
I guess I agree but I wouldn't necessarily assume that a Che poster outs a Marxist. Marxism has a certain set of rules (dictatorship of the proletariat e.g.) that I doubt any of the candidates can be suspected of championing. At worst, we are talking about two socialists. In a campaign that is aggravatingly polluted by mud-slinging and fear-mongering, one very important thing keeps jumping out at me. Everyone who has known Obama personally throughout the years, even his conservative classmates at Harvard, like him. He is a genuinely likable guy and a real family man. On the other hand, no one likes McCain except a few Democrats and Lindsey Graham. I won't be voting for either one but I do not fear Obama. Those who do are buying into the cartoon world of the RINOs who must be heavily invested in the fabled ACME Company that makes those famous kits to capture road runners.
Virginia Patriot writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 9:32 PM
Phil
I need to get their catalog and see if they have any liberal Supreme Court Justice bogeyman repellant.
Pasadena Phil writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 9:38 PM
VPat
I would check with Consumer Reports first. The only products they sell that seem to work are the anvil and the ten-ton weight. All of the fancy products like those rocket skates and giant sling shots seem to have high failure rates. But they're still doing business so they must have SOME good products.
Pasadena Phil writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 10:05 PM
Kimberly
Here comes the first anvil.
crimefighter1 writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 10:23 PM
tom delay diatribes
tom delay is a fool and a rogue who preys on people he feels inferior than himself,those people are his supporters.he relys on them to do his dirty work while he lays in the background.life's principles have come around and that's why he's no longer in congress in a powerful seat and position and GOD knows it was the devil occupying a seat satan did not deserve.
Nvwoti writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 10:56 PM
Ummm, Tom
Read this article about yourself:

http://www.slate.com/id/1002713/
Nvwoti writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 11:19 PM
Dear Tommy
Before you name-call and smear other people, as you have done FOR YEARS........... try standing in a mirror for just a moment. (NO.... not the Mug Shot while invoking Jesus and smiling).. just your bathroom shaving mirror.

(The hypocricy, crony corporatism, PROJECTION ONTO OTHERS, faux-Christian mongering, victimhood, and borderline criminality of this guy would take a tome to itemize.)

UNBELIEVABLE POST, Mr. DeLay.

oh... and as Gen. Anthony Zinni (Ret.) used the term, CHICKENHAWK. Where were you really , "HAMMER", when Viet Nam was raging? You said that there were "too many minorities already in the military" and there was NO ROOM FOR YOU ! REALLY?????
Nvwoti writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 11:20 PM
Sorry Tom
SOMEBODY HAD TO SAY IT
JimP writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 11:20 PM
KIMBERLY
Comrade! Glad to see you weren't shipped off to the Gulag. lol
dawndawn writes: Thursday, June, 05, 2008 11:56 PM
Drinking the KOOOOOLAIIIIDDDD!
Yo! -- Get a grip! -- Give me the knuckles on my way to Camelot -- Give me more -- Iran, William Ayers, Don`t fund the war in Iraq -- Super Pundits to listen to in their screaming/raging voices at high fidelity until election time: Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson (should he have rank/rank before Sharpton???), that Tonya person -- Reverend Wright, The Priest guy and Who -- Reverend Not so Meeks -- Don`t criticize me and whatever you do, LEAVE ME EARS ALONE -- (Whatever you have to say about John McCain, he is easy on the ears) -- Who else is out there -- The Tape??? -- Michelle, didn`t quite catch me in my best first lady to be moment -- Tony who didn`t buy my easement Rezko -- You`re trying to kill me! -- 24 hours a day -- This is off Limits -- Obama is the Change that all namby pamby liberals, strive to give the farm away, sell out our national security, tax us into poverty and roll over to the UN -- Do you seriously want this in the White House for the next however long it takes for someone to (I leave your biggest fear open to you -- for you liberals, fill in the blank) - Barack Obama IS NOT QUALIFIED|||| -- Am I allowed to post that???? -- HE IS NOT QUALIFIED!!!! -- COME AND GET ME!!!! -- HE IS NOT QUALIFIED -- ps -- i don`t have anger management issues -- Go, Johnny, Go! --
CG GOPRed writes: Friday, June, 06, 2008 12:05 AM
Sad Sad Tom...

Honestly Tom, Is blogging the best you can do for yourself these days...spending your days in your footed pajamas in your basement in front of a computer screen. So sad...
My Pet Goat writes: Friday, June, 06, 2008 6:22 AM
The source.
Tom DeLay is the single most amoral, corrupt little weasel in all of politics.

If he said 2+2=4, I'd take arithmetic over again.
Ana Mus writes: Friday, June, 06, 2008 6:52 AM
everytime someone is asked
whether Obama shares Wright's views, everyone dances around the issue without coming right out and saying "yes he does." No pundit wants to be the first to say it publicly on the airwaves. However, the voters say it and say it in great numbers.

Notice now Wright has NOT given up his seat at the TUCC. Now that Obama has clinched the nomination and it doesn't appear Wright hurt Obama as far as the RBC/DNC handing the nomination to Obama, maybe Wright will slip up and tell more truths about Obama.

I would suspect Wright will be mighty pissed that he not only didn't get to be part of Obama's presidential kick off ceremonies, but even more pissed that he won't be able to be part of what he conceives to be Obama's swearing in.

Pundits are hoping Hillary's voters will just politely cross over and vote Obama, I don't see it happening and I suspect there will be grass root efforts to keep him out of the WH.
CATSCATS writes: Friday, June, 06, 2008 10:16 AM
Get a Clue
PPhil wrote:

McCain is four-square behind the Cap and Trade Bill. If that isn't a Marxist scheme for redistributing income, I don't know what is.

PPhil, you don't know what a Marxist scheme for redistributing income is.

All this loose talk about "marxists" and "socialists". You guys are out of your minds (some of you called McCain a socialist!!!). You don't know the meaning of the terms. But, hey, it gets the juices going from the neanderthals.
JimP writes: Friday, June, 06, 2008 10:28 AM
KIMBERLY
Sorry it took so long to get back to you on your question re my expertise on the commie lingo. I was busy making obscene profits at the expense of the proletariat. My expertise comes from fighting the communists in Viet Nam and closely observing their anti-war activities during the 1960's, early 1970's and since those 'glorious days' for your side. Also, I am a student of history. Of course it is the capitalist exploiter, imperialist dog version of history. Why your retort anyway? Aren't you a proud communist? It is obvious that you are a commie, what not just admit it?
CATSCATS writes: Friday, June, 06, 2008 11:14 AM
How So?
Jim P: you running dog of capitalism you.

How is it "obvious" that Kimberly is a communist?
CG GOPRed writes: Friday, June, 06, 2008 3:03 PM
Y'all need to get out more...
This blog is the most inane form of verbal masturbation I have ever seen...disgusting.
Pasadena Phil writes: Friday, June, 06, 2008 3:09 PM
CATSCATS
Apparently you don't know how to read. Re-read my comment. Ask your mother if you need help.
BarryS writes: Friday, June, 06, 2008 4:56 PM
Absurd
Interesting post from another site, from someone who knows what Marxism is. Whatever happened to educated and civil discourse?

--

You gotta love that disproving-a-negative construct. Unless Mr. X can prove me wrong he IS so-and-so. As in: Unless Mr. X can prove me wrong, he doesn't know what "Marxist" actually means.

While Obama is certainly a fairly orthodox liberal, I've seen zero evidence that he is anti-capitalist, that he believes the people own only their capacity to work, that he believes the proletariat are exploited by the owners of capital, that history should be seen purely through the lends of class struggle, or that religion is the opiate of the people ("Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes.")

In fact, I've seen evidence to the contrary of every one of these Marxist ideologies.

Or…am I making a mistake by actually taking the charge seriously and trying to examine it?

Is this rhetoric evidence that Republicans have concluded the only way they can win in what looks to be a Democratic year is to say anything, everything, demonize Obama in the most non-factual and unsavory of ways?
OH NO NOT AGAIN writes: Friday, June, 06, 2008 5:05 PM
Tom Delay who was run out of DC
That is what I am talking about, you people uphold the likes os Ollie North and call that a hero. So why would we listen to anything you have to say. The sad part is so many conservative hacks have many outlets to spread their lies and hate.
ScarletPimpernel writes: Friday, June, 06, 2008 5:58 PM
Commies and failure to communicate
A liberal is someone who has read Marx. A conservative is someone that understands Marx.
planet gene writes: Sunday, June, 08, 2008 4:06 PM
Conservatives Can, Nay, MUST Do Better
Mr. DeLay, one of the things the American people learned the hard way over the course of the last seven years is that invoking Marxism, Socialism, Liberalism, and Secular Humanism is a smokescreen for informed discourse. It's empty rhetoric and name-calling. Instead of making sure that the rich and powerful don't abuse their wealth and power -- a gambit that surely would have caused a far longer conservative reign -- your only recourse is to initiate name-calling.

I mean, look at the title of your link, for heaven's sake: "Tom DeLay Calls Obama a Marxist." Git out yer pitchforks and torches, Peasants -- there's a bad ol' Marxist out thar in the bushes!

Big deal.

All the people know at this point is that there's a bad ol' somebody out there who is effing up the American economy, sending our youths out to fight and die in a war of questionable value, and doing nothing about climate change and energy self-sufficiency. This appears to be a conservative legacy.

So does anybody really CARE if Obama is a Marxist -- even if it were true?

I've said it before: Conservatives, make your case in the nearest venue of reasoned debate. Don't descend to this pathetic name-calling. You'll only look juvenile.
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