Friday, June 20, 2008
Posted by:
Tom DeLay
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8:44 AM
It’s official: House Democrats have gone insane. And I don’t mean insane like wearing white shoes after Labor Day or thinking of Jimmy Carter as an elder statesman. I mean the guy on the corner in the sandwich board sign that reads, “Mr. Snuffleupagus Is The Antichrist!” crazy.
To recap: gasoline now costs $4 per gallon, principally because America, which once consumed the vast majority of the world’s petroleum, now has to compete for the stuff with the increasingly industrialized, two-billion-footed nations of India and China. More buyers, higher prices, simple as that. We’re in the midst of what will almost certainly be a long-term struggle, on par with the Cold War, against hostile regimes who happen to operate in the most oil-rich region in the world. Every year, we pump billions of petro-profits into some of the most unfriendly hands on earth, and in response to all of this, the Democrat majority of the United States House of Representatives demands that we… wait for it… nationalize our oil refineries?
Seriously! This is their plan. Not a secret plan, mind you, but something House Democrats – including their supposedly level-headed leaders – believe is within the boundaries of reasonable political debate in this country. Look:
Maurice Hinchey: “We should own the refineries. Then we can control how much gets out into the market.” By “we,” Mr. Hinchey means, “the government.” Seriously. Government takeover of industry, 1930s Italy style.
This isn’t moderate. This isn’t even liberal. This is socialism! It’s crazy o’clock on Capitol Hill!
Think I’m kidding? Ask Rep. Maxine Waters’ who at one of the star-chamber hearings with energy executives, said, “Guess what this liberal will be all about! This liberal will be about socializing, uh… will be about… basically… taking over and the government running all of your companies.” The government running all of our energy companies? Based on her performance in that hearing, Maxine Waters can barely manage to run her mouth.
We have the most innovative and efficient energy industry on earth. The United States is sitting on more than 10 years worth of oil, in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico, and the Democrats’ response is to… nationalize the energy sector?
Vulnerable is too gentle a word to describe the Democrats’ position on this issue. We have the oil. We have the industry. We have the technological innovation to tap our reserves without needlessly undermining surrounding eco-systems. A combination of new exploration, increased production, the creation of nuclear plants, and all the private research into alternative fuels you can shake a stick at will bring down gas prices. It will bring down electricity and heating bills. It will solve the problem.
The tin-foil-hat Democrats, on the other hand, want to revisit the failed policies of Marxist and Fascist dictators. We need to get this crowd back on their meds. Right away.
is taking money and bribes for a politician that bad? thats like saying highway construction workers cant take a small nap during work hrs..
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...along with 98% of the rest of Congress for violating their oath of office? |
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Of course it will take time to reach oil that the eco-fascists have tried to keep from us for almost four decades. I can wait one decade or so, at least the process will have started. The government will run our economy into the ground if it is permitted. Socialism has never worked and never will. |
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Assuming we take your premise on offshore drilling seriously **, what is your alternative? What policy do you or Sen. Obama have to bring down oil prices at the pump?
It seems that the only way to bring down the price of gas is to either increase the supply, or reduce the demand. Even if we could reduce demand through conservation, car-pooling, better fuel efficiency, etc, it doesn't make up for the fact that demand would be compensated by many time with China and India's increased oil demand.
McCain has got this one right. More drilling, more nuclear.
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This statement reveals a great deal of ignorance about how a free market economy works. Of course, if we start new drilling everywhere today, and new refineries, etc., this oil will not be working its way to the market for another 10 or so years. This is true. (BTW, if Clinton would not have vetoed ANWR in 1995 we would be wallowing in its oil today, 13 years later).
However, by simply APPROVING and announcing that we WILL start drilling, a great economic pressure valve will release, and prices will drop almost immediately. Then watch the Saudis and other OPEC nations scramble to increase their own oil production in anticipation of some actual, real-world competition for their petro dollars.
Another note: the Saudi shieks live extremely lavishly when the price is 20 dollars a barrel, so if the price dips below 50 again, they will not be hurting. At all.
For us NOT to drill now, and drill often, is absolute insanity, and national suicide. We produce. We consume. We earned it. We are Americans.
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Kimberly - have you missed a large part of the debate?
1. Not only do we need to go after oil in ANWR and the OCS but many have called for going after the TRILLION+ barrels locked up in oil shales. The US has more oil than any other nation on the planet.
2. The price of oil is determined by forward looking futures contracts. If we are serious about bringing additional supplies to the market the futures market will respond accordingly. As a matter of fact many of the speculators will lose their shirts as the price of oil plummets.
3. We need to use our own oil to stop funding hostile 3rd world regimes and stop funding Sovereign Wealth Funds that buy up US asssets.
4. There are over 100 MILLION vehicles on the road that can only burn gasoline or diesel. NO alternative fuel can change that fact and the rate of replacement of the automobile fleet to vehicles that can burn alternatives will take decades.
5. The eco-Marxist propaganda regarding the environment just don't hild up. Several nations that are more eco-minded than the US drill offshore with no ill effect, Norway and the UK specifically. After hurricane Katrina there was virtually no oil leakage even though hundreds of rigs were damaged. The environmental argument is simply false. The same false argument exists for ANWR. Nothing lives there. It is subzero frozen tundra most of the year and a mosquito infested swamp the rest of the year. |
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Here's DeLay hyperventilating again. He cites two back benchers and makes it out to be socialism.
But you know what? Maybe we should nationalize the industry. Despite the blatherings of Calvinesq and others--"socialism has never worked and never will"--there are countless examples to the contrary. Saudi Arabia and Venezuela, just to name two, seem to be running their oil industries just fine. |
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Tom DeLay wrote: "A combination of new exploration, increased production, the creation of nuclear plants, and all the private research into alternative fuels you can shake a stick at will bring down gas prices." You can add to that list research into higher mileage vehicles, and you have your Gospel in a sentence.
I think everyone, left and right, agrees on this basic premise. Where the Left differs from the Right is in the proportion of effort we put into producing more oil versus developing alternative fuels and higher mileage cars. The Left is suspicious of the Right's insistence on first coming up with the fuel we need to drive down prices. After all, there seems to be plenty of oil (if we can believe what the Saudi prince told our president), and it looks too much like we're going back to paying off our oil interests for their sweet contributions to everyone's campaigns. So the Left is saying, okay, first let's rev up our R&D engine and get us free of our dependence on oil. I think that's actually pretty reasonable.
And so what if a few Dems in the House (home of more than a few crazies on BOTH sides of the aisle) say the "N" word ("nationalize"). I think it's great that they are telling the oil executives, "Hey, this is what lies down the road if you don't do something to slow down this runaway train. We're putting you on notice early on."
The way DeLay started his piece, you'd have thought every Dem in America agreed. C'mon. Nationalizing is too hard, and it will never happen. But a couple of well-placed empty threats did the trick, didn't they? Got your attention. |
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Actually, nationalizing the oil industry would force the U.S. to become energy independent, because nobody else would want to play with us. So we'd be forced to drill offshore and in the ANWR, and isn't that what every red-blooded conservative wants?? (Heh-heh.) |
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And of course we need revenue to fund Department of Energy initiatives that would help us become energy independent. Giving our car companies a break for developing higher mileage cars and trucks, and other companies for developing, say, solar energy means we'd have to raise taxes elsewhere. But that would be visionary, and we're not too good at that... |
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Why nationalize? What is wrong with the free market model? Is is broken? (Correct answer: a resounding NO!) The mess we are in now is precisely BECAUSE of our government meddling in the energy industry in the first place! Have we forgotten this simple truth? The GOVERNMENT stopped the energy companies from drilling, from building new refineries, and from building new nuclear power plants. This problem is created and driven by government interference, NOT by a failure of the industries themselves to solve and/or prevent the problem.
Sometimes I think a better definition of socialist is retard. |
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There seems to be no logic, pragmatic understanding or reality of circumstance that can sway the liberal mind from their sworn position.
Even with the per barrel price of oil skyrocketing, the instability of our supply that is the Middle East, the fact that our money is literally going to our fiercest enemies and we could end all that by simply using that which we have in abundance, to the liberal mind, doing so is anathema.
Such allegiance is not just pseudo religion, it is cultism. "Drinking the Kool-Aid" in this case takes on deep shades of reality. |
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Kimberly, nice comment on Why isn't DeLay in jail... it's exactly the same as the comment you posted on michele bachmann's blog, with the exception of the third paragraph.
anyways, I wish that I could say that I'm surprised by this "plan" of these democrats, but I honestly can't. Especially with several of the recent actions done by liberals, in particular, the Supreme Court decision to grant habeus corpus to Gitmo detainees and also the court decision in my home state about somehow legalizing homosexual marriage, against the will of the people.
We've all seen how "efficient" the government is with the things that they run. Look what happened with Carter when he formed the Department of Energy. I don't see how "the people" (aka congress) controlling the refineries will increase production. How can the democrats in congress have a reseanable argument on refusing to allow domestic drilling when we have have methods to do it while refraining from harming the surrounding ecosystem? And also, how could domestic driling NOT lower the cost of gas? |
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The best way to ensure something is fubar (that's a military term meaning slightly less than perfect) is to turn it over to the government to run it into the ground.
The Dems know this. They know they are a collection of ignorant blowhards. Thus their attempt to nationalize anything is further proof that their real intention is to destroy the country....institution by institution.
Remember how the founding fathers were often described as great thinkers?
When is the last time you heard a politician described that way? |
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Delta456 wrote, "We've all seen how 'efficient' the government is with the things that they run."
Well, as a matter of fact, the government has contracted out many of its functions recently, and the businesses who got the contracts are milking the taxpayers dry. I'd far rather we just had the government pukes poking along at their own speed, but we're so far down this wasteful contracting-out road, it'll take years to get us back on the right track. Oh, well. |
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[When is the last time you heard a politician described that way?]
Some neocon said that about Bush the Lesser.
If that doesn't prove that public schools are failing and we're really devolving as a species into chimps (and not the other way around), I don't know what does. ;)
BTW, Maxine Walters is just to the left of Stalin, so it doesn't particularly surprise me that she's pro-nationalization of industry. |
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Bill O'Reilly had a great line last night when interviewing a Democratic strategist about the gas prices. He asked, "What is you and your candidate's, Sen. Obama's, answer to the gas prices? Horse-drawn covered wagons?"
Priceless!
Say NO! to socialism ... say NO! to Obama. |
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*kimberly
Thank you once again for being first in line to shout out “ Hey I’m a Communist”, I hate American Free Markets and our way of life because I’m a worthless Putz and have nothing better to do; Destroy America first/ torture ‘us” first / stupid first.
Raze villages, kill, plunder; Hmm, where have we those words of condemning words of Genius before, oh yeah, one of the other communist elite multi millionaires, John Kerry , who sold his fellow soldiers down the river, and got his a$s kicked for it .
Being from Chicago, we have a unique perspective on the slime politics from which Obama came. And now that his know associates are going to jail one by one , the picture becomes ever clearer. Why isn’t Obama in jail ? I guess colluding on Real Estate deals with a know Criminal and Muslim Terrorist fund raiser aka Tony Rezko dosn’t qualify like the trumped up political charges against Tom Delay.
And please don’t try to pawn off your ideas on Oil and the Economy as something that warrants our consideration, as it is clear from your post, your thoughts are nothing more than collective Blather, much like one of Teleprompter Messiah's speeches.
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Well, Ted, I'm sure there was a point in that unfocused tirade somewhar, but I up 'n missed it. Way to articulate.
Dang. |
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Settle down!! Why just today I heard that Exxon, Shell, BP and Total are about to sign no bid contract for Iraqi oil. Now isnt that a great victory for our fearless leader? I wonder who will be protecting these companies while they are making BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars. 100 more yrs. in Iraq. Now its all starting to make sense. What are you doing blogging at 8 a.m. Little slow at the office these days? |
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is sit on their hands and cry "oh poor us, poor us. Those big meanies in the oil company are cheating us." They don't want to offer solution.
The right is trying to give solutions, lets drill here lets drill there and lets explore all these alternative fuels and lets build power plants and on and on.
The reason why the left doesn't like the solutions approach is because they can't be the victims. They can't say that it makes them feel oppressed and beaten down. That is lefty mentality, take the victim approach and no one can pick on you.
It is like trying to argue with the special needs kid in school. Even if you win you look like the donkey.
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Congressman DeLay’s article proves that when Democrats are in white Straight-Jackets, rubber padded rooms or have their four limbs tied to the corners of the bed posts, their leaders, who give them their marching orders, will always release them long enough to hop on a forum to prove once again they are in fact the Communist party in the USA today.
Thank you for another detailed and factual article. Thank you for bringing the crazies out to demonstrate how they have also trashed the public school system in the country and have not received an education from what they have sewn.
Democrats show their national loyalty to country by wanting free market industries nationalized.
Venezuela is a Dictatorship that “nationalized” their oil industry.
Russia “nationalized” their oil industry.
Mexico “nationalized” their oil industry.
See the pattern?
Real Estate is all about location, location, location.
Obama’s campaign is all about lies, lies, lies.
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The left is doing the usual; they can't propose a better alternative because they have none. They can't argue their case because they don't like facts and like reason even less. They can't put it to a vote on the merits of the issue, they'll lose. So they take it to the Courts.
Hopefully soon the Court will have run its course and Tom DeLay will be able to return as a leader of conservative causes. He may even have picked up an idea or two about how to limit the terms of radical left judge's and cut the public funding of radical left legal groups like the American Communist Lawyers Union (ACLU). |
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Reasoned Debate, beloved darling child of Wisdom and Caring, died today after a long illness. It breathed its last in the obscure blog of Tom DeLay, ex-Congressman from Texas, in the Comments Section. It succumbed to name-calling and rigid ideology, from which it could never recover. It's friends say it will be sorely missed. |
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"The best way to ensure something is fubar (that's a military term meaning slightly less than perfect)..."
That is a classic understatement if I've ever read one. For the uninitiated, a polite way to put it is "fouled up beyond all repair".
"...is to turn it over to the government to run it into the ground."
No doubt. |
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Mr DeLay. You're absolutely right. Keep it up!
But the proper spelling of the word is "straitjacket".
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While I'm sure that government taking over the oil industry is clearly a bridge too far, it can probably, and more successfully, reintroduce regulation into the oil industry environment, if only to save the industry from itself.
Funny how I read two articles in today's paper that mention re-regulation as an option for, respectively, the electric utilities and the airline industry. That the government should step in and make air travel better is particularly critical at this time. The industry has been "racing to the bottom" for awhile now and truly needs a helping hand, and sooner rather than later. This is blindingly obvious to anyone who flies.
Hey, and I have a good idea: Let's put some people in charge of these new government regulatory agencies who really are qualified and know what they're doing -- NOT the heck-of-a-job-Brownie types. Government can, and does, work well if you hire qualified people to run it. |
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What part of Drill Now do the crats not understand? |
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Quote by planet gene:
“Government can, and does, work well if you hire qualified people to run it.”
If that is true, then why did Bill Clinton hire so many incompetent people with criminal drug records that the secret service would not OK for top secret passes until Bill vetoed their authority and overruled them?
Of course by government “working well”, I am sure you are referring to the many close “dead” associates of the Clintons. What is it, 46, 47 people?
Or maybe you are referring to Jimmy Carter’s illustrious lab experiment with the economy that Obama will duplicate.
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Toppie, did I say that Obama would hire good people if we voted him into office? How would I know that? For that matter, how do you know he won't? Maybe you read something in those far right blogs that I didn't read.
And I don't think the success of past Democratic administrations is any guarantee of future Dem admins anymore than the pathetic mess that George W. Bush will leave as his legacy is an indication that McCain will do as poorly.
All I know is, we had better start believing that government can work well, or we are truly done for, and may God help us all. |
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Go to Unitethegop.com, click on the photo to theright and reach the 'blog' page. On it, you will find an excellent article on Shale Oil extraction, and the new and innovations that are making that source accessable. 250 years is a long time for oil needs, and in that time, I'm quite sure we can come up with an alternative!
I have printed the article out, writtien in big yellow highlighter across it's pages
YES WE CAN DRILL OUR WAY OUT OF THIS! And have sent it to Obama, and several other no drill socialdemos. |
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Rebuttals to planet gene’s delusions.
[Toppie, did I say that Obama would hire good people if we voted him into office? How would I know that?]
You insinuated it when you said, “Let's put some people in charge of these new government regulatory agencies who really are qualified and know what they're doing”. Don’t even think about trying to tell us you would vote for a person who you do not feel is capable of placing qualified people into positions of responsibility. That is the sole reason you vote for someone, their capabilities, their views and their direction they want to take the country.
[For that matter, how do you know he won't?]
Johnson, Carter and Clinton. Need any more proof?
[Maybe you read something in those far right blogs that I didn't read.]
I am capable of thinking for myself and deriving sound conclusions versus the liberals who receive daily brainwashing briefings from the left’s blogs.
[And I don't think the success of past Democratic administrations is any guarantee of future Dem admins]
Again, Johnson, Carter and Clinton. You can not erase history and proof of a flawed ideology not working when repeatedly practiced by several different administrations.
[anymore than the pathetic mess that George W. Bush will leave as his legacy is an indication that McCain will do as poorly.]
Have we been attacked since 9-11? Have interest rates stayed low to benefit families and business? You are clueless.
[All I know is, we had better start believing that government can work well, or we are truly done for, and may God help us all.]
Government did not and does not work well when the flawed ideology of the democrat party is practiced.
How many times do you need to try a lab experiment when the past three have given you the same result: Johnson, Carter and Clinton?
This article alone proves how destructive liberal ideology is to the economy when they are in power.
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"House Democrats have gone insane" -
Not unlike you Republicans who led in all this spending, which gave us dramatically increased inflation, which gave us high oil prices. Nationalize oil companies? Insane to be sure, but would Republicans stop it if the liberal establishment wanted it? NO! |
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RickV404;
If Clinton would have fulfilled his presidential obligations during his tenure, we would not have needed to spend the monies we recently have been forced to spend.
Your party holding this country hostage and blocking our availability to our resources is nothing short of Treason.
Go get some additional brainwashing from your left wing blogs and hurry back. Low IQ is always quite entertaining.
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Toppie writes, "Your party holding this country hostage and blocking our availability to our resources is nothing short of Treason."
Who said the Dems were my party?
And anyway, those Dems were voted in by your fellow citizens, which I guess would make those same citizens complicit in this Treason-with-a-capital-"T". Nothing like Democracy to reveal Treason on so grand a scale!
If your party -- I take it it's the Repubs -- wants to cling to power, all they have to do is show that they deserve it. That could begin with so simple a move as to throw the Common Man a crumb. But I understand so far they've been constitutionally unable to do even that. But who knows -- if y'all could have found it within your heart it might have delayed the ultimate weakness of any democracy -- that once the poor people understand they can overwhelm the rich at the voting booth, they can take over the country permanently -- and peacefully. I wonder if the Great Minds of the Republican Party ever figured that out... Oh, well, too late now for the rich to hide all that wanton greed. Obama is already being seen as the new FDR, and you wanna talk Socialism...! |
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